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Cromulus The Destroyer
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PostSubject: The Kitchen Lyrics   Wed 21 May - 17:01

This was emailed to me by The Last Atlantean, I figure I'll post it here for the fans.

*I wonder why he made it a evil or vile association with Hephaestus for? It shouldve been Hades or Orcus no? Its more like a forge lair of Iron working it seems, like descent into Vulcan's volcano or something more than Pluto's bowels.

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Alum dare id Hephaestus, id ire fundi (Give food to Hephaestus, Go deep to him)
Fati virum, omni brachium (To the oracle responsible of everything)
Pulchris profundis infernarum servi fati (To the beautiful deep hell of the servants of doom)
Impoteo Infernarum (Stinking Hell)
Pulchris infernarum profundis (To the beautiful deep hell)
Impoteo, impoteo fati (Stinking, Stinking doom)

Impoteo Infernarum (Stinking hell)
Alum dare, dolere, id Hephaestus, id ire (Give food, suffer, go to him, to Hephaestus)
Pro profundis fati (Through the deep doom)
Pro pulchris infernarum profundis (Through the beautiful deep hell)
Pro pulchris omni fati brachium (Through the beautiful hell responsible of all doom)
Pulchris profundis infernarum servi fati (Beautiful deep hell of servants of doom)
Profundis, profundis fati (To the deep, deep doom)
Alum dare, dolere, id Hephaestus, id ire (Give food, suffer, go to him, to Hephaestus)
Pro profundis fati. (Through the deep doom)
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Thu 22 May - 11:15

The evil association could be related to the christian vision of the Underworld. Once you also noted, Cromulus, that Doom has a Tree behind his throne, were he also turns into a snake. Beside him lies Eve, tempted by the Devil and corrupted -also drugged, after eating the forbidden Apple-. That forbidden food could also be the human flesh. What's more taboo food than fingers and toes? Mr. Green

Milius wanted to be pagan BUT he also uses christian visions and interpretations of the EVIL. He doen't go into Doom's psyche too much, and I allways thought Doom would be a so interesting character to discover. Who is the real enemy of Doom? If in the christian myth the Devil is the enemy of God, then who is God in CTB? Could be Conan himself... But I don't know...

In the christian myth the Devil was sent to the Earth by God, because the Devil wanted to become God. So he was punished. Then, the Devil wants to hurt and corrupt everything God created, in revenge. Maybe that's why Doom wants to destroy humanity?

If the tomb where the mummy lies is really Atlantean in origin, then the giant king would have been the real ancient enemy of Doom. Now we can even think that giant is KULL.

I wonder, does Thulsa actually SEE the atlantean sowrd, in the hands of Conan?? Because he would have recognised the weapon, I guess. That would have had a nice explanation as the dead king being KULL -an ancient god, enemy of Doom-. But i think DOOM never ever saw the atlantean weapon... scratch

Anyway, I don't think there's really too many christian morality in the movie. Maybe the enemies are "evil" in some satanic flavour, but the main guys are far from being saints.

God, Crom, and all the deities appear to be just tales for the children, in this world. As the father of Conan said, forget about gods, in the reality only exist men. Not giants, not god, just men.
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Thu 22 May - 16:52

Yes, thats the likeliest explanation . Christian elements found in the movie, may though anger some fans,lol. He was associated with Typhon too.

http://www.theoi.com/Olympios/HephaistosGod.html#Foreign

Interestingly Milius described Conan's pop as Vulcan, which is the italic equivalent of him.
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Sat 24 May - 16:21

The two fathers, light and day, two faces, same coin.

BTW, your new avatar is great! Do you have the whole picture?
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Sat 24 May - 16:25

Yeah and the Tower of the Serpent music is from a Spanish Catholic mass.

*No Turd, but I'll try and scan one for the site, its supposedly some rare Casaro alternate poster, lets hope he doesnt sue me/or us. king

Here's the EBAY pic for now:



Its an 11 x 17 on a hard cardboard, probably some movie theater or video store thing, an alternate from the USA one perhaps. Surprised Casaro doesnt publically show more of his CONAN, it seems he made a few alternates.

EDIT:

The guy has like 12 of them for sale, so make sure you get yours.

http://cgi.ebay.com/A-SCHWARZENEGGER-POSTER-CONAN-BARBARIAN-ART-PRINT_W0QQitemZ350061428844QQihZ022QQ
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Mon 26 May - 14:22

Cromulus The Destroyer wrote:
its supposedly some rare Casaro alternate poster

It does match with that tiny pic (which looks like a rough) on the bottom left from that Turkish art mag Casaro interview scan I once found...



Here is a zoomed version of the eBay pic (thanks to Protoplasme), while waiting for something better:


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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Mon 26 May - 14:32

Yes it does, cept obviously the B&W color and the addition of the early rendition of the "CONAN" title. All we need now is the Volcano one. I think I will email this ebay guy, maybe he has one laying around. Wink

* I dont know yet whether by "cardstock" he means cardboard or just a regular poster paper. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Mon 26 May - 14:51

Or he could have it in digital form and printed it on cardstock... foufou
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Mon 26 May - 15:27

If he has that many, then its probably perhaps in digital. Oh well if thats the case then something is better than nothing I suppose.

* On the bottom left hand corner, there appears to be some kinda writing, on Protoplasme's blowup of it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Mon 26 May - 15:40

Oh, I totally missed the fact that he had 12 for sale.
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Mon 26 May - 16:25

Cromulus The Destroyer wrote:
On the bottom left hand corner, there appears to be some kinda writing, on Protoplasme's blowup of it.

I guess that's probably Casaro's name/signature... scratch

Here is a better look at the "volcano" version Cromulus was talking about:



(I don't know why, but this one looks more "recent" to me, almost like from his "Painted Movies" period maybe?)

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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Mon 26 May - 16:42

The exact same volcano motif was also used in this magnificent painting he did for Umberto Lenzi's CONAN+QUEST FOR FIRE rip-off called IRON MASTER:



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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Tue 27 May - 0:38

The Volcano concept couldve been perhaps Thulsa Doom's lair, least the scriptwise one. I wonder if the half-naked Conan battling the giant snake with the axe was artistic license addition by Casaro or some early concept or more likely plucking from "The Gladiator" montage ?
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Mon 2 Jun - 12:37

I was wondering the same about the serpent fight drawing, as all the rest of images looks pretty accurate to the movie.

In the volcano version, Conan seems to wear the same green loincloth and belt as in the official poster, right? Valeria by change looks like the typical S&S inept chick... puker She looks great Rolling Eyes but not the best portrait of her...

Would be nice to look closer to the army. I wonder if it fits with the movie, looks like it doesn't, too much...

The Iron Master poster is amazing, I've only watched some clips of that peace of sheet in youtube, bu I could swear the poster is the only watchable thing related to that crap. Btw, the neandertals were actually picts.

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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Mon 2 Jun - 12:50

Oops, and those pterodactyls also look familiar...





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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Mon 2 Jun - 20:11

The poster arrived last Friday, it an 11 x 17, too big to scan on my machine here at home. The lettering does say Casaro, so its his sig there. The Conan illustration batting the giant serpent, looks taken from the Gladiator scene with perhaps some added flare. Yasmina and Doom look alot like Frazetta facial types, large cheek bones and oblique eyes.

The poster is quite nice, hope others ordered them. Thanks again to Mighty! Yeahhhh!

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The Ironmaster poster is excellent, but wish that second caption in the lefthand corner was deleted and not there, as it kinda takes away from the overall scene.
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Tue 3 Jun - 19:37

Cromulus The Destroyer wrote:

The poster is quite nice, hope others ordered them. Thanks again to Mighty! Yeahhhh!

yep, I've got it! thumleft


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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Tue 3 Jun - 20:19

Excellent man, glad someone could get a quality scan for the rest of the fans.
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Wed 4 Jun - 9:32

:doom: Thank you thumleft
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Wed 4 Jun - 9:40

Amazing piece of art, really! Shocked

If it wasn't for the snake part, which was probbaly done without photo references _ Razz _ it almost looks better than the official one that they finally used.

Though, didn't Casaro exaggerate a bit the princess's breasts? Mr. Green
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Wed 4 Jun - 9:48

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The Ironmaster poster is excellent, but wish that second caption in the lefthand corner was deleted and not there, as it kinda takes away from the overall scene.



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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Wed 4 Jun - 12:29

Thanks, Castor. Wonder if Casaro released a true movie print poster like that? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: The Kitchen Lyrics   Thu 5 Jun - 1:09

THANKS a lot, Proto!
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PostSubject: "the kitchen" lyrics   Fri 25 Jul - 8:57

here's my own transcription of the lyrics. i cant decide about a couple of the words, though.

______, dies festus, _ittere (mittere?), pulchrum (pulchra?)

(dies festus - holiday, festival) (pulchr-um, (-a) - beautiful thing(s))

fati vir, umbra obliqua, arcuor
(a man of fate, with slanted shadow, i am bent)

pulchris profundis infernarum, servi fati
(to the beautiful depths of hell, slaves of fate)

inflo vela infernarum
(i blow the sails full of hell) (inflare - to inflate, "blow full")

o, o, o, pulchris infernarum profundis
(o, o, o, to the beautiful depths of hell)

inflo vela, inflo vela fati
(i blow the sails, i blow the sails full of fate)

inflo vela infernarum

______, movere, dies festus, cedere
(______, to move, a holiday, to cease)

o, o, o, profundis fati
(o, o, o, to the depths of fate)

o, o, o, pulchris infernarum profundis

ac aerum dii mari fati aevo
(even the gods of the air are fated, with time, to the sea)

OR, the above line also sounds like it might be:

a caelo dii mari fati aevo
(the gods are fated, with time, from heaven to the sea)

pulchris profundis infernarum, servi fati
profundis, profundis fati
______, movere, dies festus, cedere
o, o, o, profundis fati

hope this helps, :) valete!
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PostSubject: what about the other alternate poster?   Mon 1 Mar - 23:36

Does anyone have this third Conan poster showed by a memeber here in good quality JPEG ?

I'm talking about this one:

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5701/pcasaro08a2px1.jpg

Haven't seen it anywhere though...

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