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PostSubject: Armor of the Orient/Silk Road   Wed 29 Oct - 9:31

Here a site showing some of styles used by Persians, Russians, Indians, Mongols and others.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505/


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PostSubject: Re: Armor of the Orient/Silk Road   Tue 2 Dec - 13:30

Cromulus The Destroyer wrote:



Wow, where is that from, Cromulus? I allways thought Thorgrim's helmet was viking, or maybe saxon inspired.
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PostSubject: Re: Armor of the Orient/Silk Road   Wed 3 Dec - 2:42

Seems the damn link(their server) is kaput right now, so I cant comment on the exact image your referring to turd. But will get back to ya once the link works again.

BTW an Anthropology/Archeology/Politics/History forum that I mod at just re-opened up after an unfortunate hiatus. So if anybody is interested in joining, PM me.
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PostSubject: Re: Armor of the Orient/Silk Road   Wed 3 Dec - 2:46

..and WTF?

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Here a site showing some of styles used by Persians, Russians, Indians, Mongols and others.

When I'm offline viewing this thread, the word 'site' there is a link to a gay prostitution website. Shocked Shit Laughing


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Ok the images and link is working now all of a sudden, fucking internet is playing games!!! rambo

According to these guys, the visor protection:

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All of the Occulars of which I am aware are attached rigidly to the helmet. However, the Soviet film "Alexander Nevsky" shows an Occular which is hinged so that it can be lifted off the face. While movies are not to be taken as sources, Soviet movie makers often did a fair amount of research so that this armour should not be discounted outright but bears searching for.
Generally, the Occulars are an early form of visor, found with Russian and Nomad armour prior to the 15th century. However, at least one 17th century Indian illustration shows this in use. The Indian helmet is illustrated at the left. The Russian/Pecheneg form of this visor generally has a nasal which extends down to the bottom of the face, which distinguishes it from the Viking Occulars, which tended to have no extended Nasal. This Russian form Occular is illustrated on one of the helmets at the discussion of Conical domes. An alternative form of Occulars which are sometimes found in Russia and among the Eurasian nomads is an anthropomorphic form -- which is a half mask in the shape of a face extending to the bottom of the nose. This is illustrated at the right.

And the helmet in question:

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The conical dome, most easily described as almost a round dome that rises gradually to a point is almost as widely distributed as the round dome and almost as varied in detail.
The helmet at the left is based on a monumental relief of approximately the 8th century CE found in Armenia. The helmet itself is a one-piece structure with the back and sides extended down from the dome to extend coverage at the back of the head and cover the ears of the wearer. It seems very similar to a 14th century European Bascinet. The Maile worn with it seems to be a separate cap rather than a curtain. There seem to be very few helmets of this Bascinet-type, one-piece dome-back-and-sides design in use in the East. Generally, the dome was separate from any back and side protection that the helmet would provide.
A far more common type of helmet is that illustrated at the right. The connical dome is here supplemented by oculars and a full aventail. This design was common in Russia and among the Eurasian nomadic peoples at around the same time as a similar helmet (though commonly with a round dome) was popular among the Nordic peoples of Western Europe.
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