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PostSubject: GI JOE vs Set   Thu 7 May - 0:49

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4d-q5frGqU&feature=player_embedde

Guess their Marvel writers always recycle material .. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: GI JOE vs Set   Sat 9 May - 22:54

The writers of the cartoon screenplays were from Marvel?


The snake is highly reminiscent of the one from the "Conan the Adventurer" cartoon Razz Identical, I would say. Could the designers/artists/whatever be the same?


Is interesting that these evil snake foes appeared during the 80's, paralelly to the Milius movie.... The Cobra Commander was some kind of serpentine dictator, just like Doom, also the "snake standards" and so... scratch ... hmmm dunno, but could be a influence there? or maybe it was simply a snake fashion of the times, dunno....

I remember there was an animation movie of GIjoe where they discovered/cloned (or something) that new Cobra Boss and, I can't really remember, but they sorta found Atlantean ruins or something, with the remains of an ancient snake-men culture... which the Cobra Commander descended from, and he also turned into a snake... can't really remember... scratch
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PostSubject: Re: GI JOE vs Set   Sun 10 May - 21:58

Yeah, well it is clearly Marvel influenced and produced for that matter. I dont want to give Milius too much credit as Marvel/Roy Thomas had a HUGE influence on the making of the CONAN movie and many of its designs.

* The Kurgan in HIGHLANDER was very much CONAN movie inspired, combined with THE TERMINATOR. His armor alone was very much Thulsa Doom like, and the snake skull helmet is again, very CONAN inspired.
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PostSubject: Re: GI JOE vs Set   Mon 11 May - 5:17

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The Kurgan in HIGHLANDER was very much CONAN movie inspired, combined with THE TERMINATOR.

Absolutely, in fact the director originally wanted ARNOLD to play the role, so that's a proof he was thinking about Conan. Besides there are scenes of the Kurgan in modern city which are obviously inspired by Terminator, absolutely.

About the snake-helmet scratch you mean the skull helmet he wears? I always thought it was more some kind of sabretooth skull....
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PostSubject: Re: GI JOE vs Set   Mon 11 May - 21:26

You'll probably have to start googling skulls, but the overall impression I got was that it was indeed supposed to be that of a Snake or a hybridized Man/Serpent combo:

Adder:



King Cobra:



Note the lower split jaw, typical of serpents.

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PostSubject: Re: GI JOE vs Set   Tue 12 May - 7:31

I see what you mean, though (far away from being a realistic skull) I think it's some mammal -because of the nose hole, but specially because of the teeth, different kinds of teeth are only of mammals, reptiles only have fangs-

It's not a sabretooth, I think I remembered the fangs longer in my mind, though it's some kind of fossil feline or something, I think. Notice the different kinds of teeth

http://microscopemallonline.com/library/0205.jpg

http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/bc-42ts-lg.jpg

http://www.sculpturegallery.com/three/mountain_lion_skull.jpg

I would say it's some kind of mix between a lion and a human skull.... though it could also be a mix between a human and a snake as you first said
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PostSubject: Re: GI JOE vs Set   Tue 12 May - 9:13

Yeah, we gotta assume they went with some kinda beast-man, Vampiric-Serpent and Human concoction for whatever reason...most surely echoing the CTB movie. " I mean, "Who Wants to Live Forever"? Mr. Green

Lion Skull btw:

http://www.skullsunlimited.com/graphics/bc-72-lg.jpg
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PostSubject: Re: GI JOE vs Set   Tue 12 May - 12:47

Do you remember that G.I.joe cartoon movie I talked about earlier, about the serpent-men?

Quote :
A 40,000-year-old race of snake people resurface, and with help of Serpentor, Desto, Baroness and Dr. Mindbender, plan to eliminate all of mankind and rebuild Cobrala. Once rulers of Earth, the Snake people were driven underground by ice-age temperatures. While in exile, they developed a plant whose spores turn ordinary men into mindless, weak animals. The key to their plan is G.I. Joe's secret project--the Broadcast Energy Emitter. Only this device generates enough heat so that the spores can mature. Humankind's very existance depends on G.I. Joe, but are they strong enough, smart enough, cunning enough to fight a warrior race with 40,000 years of experience?

The Serpentor character (a Thulsa-Doom dictator short of thing) also had a similar snake-helmet as the Kurgan (though purely and explicitely serpentine)... and was later transformed into that Wrath-Amon of the "Conan the adeventurer" cartoon which apparently had some similar designers.... scratch

check out the minute 3:40, he uses snakes as arrows :doom: Rolling Eyes Mr. Green



Also in minute 7:20, the Cobra Commander has transform into an snake....
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PostSubject: Re: GI JOE vs Set   Tue 12 May - 15:33

The GI JOE cartoon was made by Marvel. The comic was actually first and debuting back in 1982. Larry Hama the author, based COBRA on the Neo-Nazi Serpent lovin HYDRA organization. Which in turn also seemed based on a supposed real life Nazi organization called ODESSA and of course SPECTRE from James Bond.

HYDRA was created by Marvel in 1965 to fight SHIELD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HYDRA

COBRA(also Marvel)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_(comics)

His character design:

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Klaus_Voorhees_(Earth-616)
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