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The Last Atlantean
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PostSubject: arms,motifs and historical influences in CTB   Sat 17 Nov - 7:38

Hello all,
just to recapitulate Cobb's historical references in creating the movie world of Conan:I'll tackle here the main influences that went into the atlantean general and the crypt.The heraldric emblem behind the general includes rising smoke/clouds done in a particularly japanese style and the whole design is very reminiscent of a katana's guard or tsuba (including what a japanese would call Mt Fuji!).The giant's position reads samurai (quite like those modern japanese seated statues of people like Takeda Shingen and other daimyos of the Sengoku period),his helm's neck protection and front crownlike piece and those back-folding sidepieces are also samurai,his shinguards seem a bit classical greek with that musculature done in relief,while the atlantean sword is part viking shaped,hollow-grooved thick viking blade,an essentially tri-lobed pommel,with pseudo-viking contors and lines/shapes in its bronzes,drakkar-inspired dragonheads and a typically japanese aesthetic,that of the sword recounting a story/myth,quite like the elements one may find engraved on a katana's tsuba.The atlantean is virtually a 2 hander (katana again).The fantasy element is of course its long langets which form the sea dragons' tails - dragons which create the tidal waves that engulf the Atlantis continent...one "Q" -like glyph in the half circle surrounding the volcano is the same one found carved on the menhir tombmarker outside the crypt...
Another element,Doom's and Rexor's helms seem straight out of Alexander Nevsky...pseudo-viking Corinthians!
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PostSubject: Re: arms,motifs and historical influences in CTB   Sat 17 Nov - 8:23

Very interesting, man. thumleft

But, Doom and Rexor "corinthians"...? scratch Rexor is probably a vanir, as Thorgrim (that is Iron Age pre-teutonics). viking
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PostSubject: Re: arms,motifs and historical influences in CTB   Sat 17 Nov - 8:28

I mean corinthian helmets,commonly known as "Corinthians".U know,that particular nasal design and the characteristic protruding visor.....
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PostSubject: Re: arms,motifs and historical influences in CTB   Sat 17 Nov - 8:37

Forgot to mention that the guy's position might be that of a seated samurai (overseeing a battle),however every other cultural aspect of the burial is viking in essence:his gravegoods for his journey to Valhalla,such as a flask of wine probably,or ale,a frankish-like axe and other goods,and most importantly his sacrificed slaves,to accompany and serve him in the afterlife - one's got a broken jaw,chained,a characteristic viking sacrifice method (which 1st involved strangling or stabbing by an elderly woman called "the Angel of Death"....Such slaves often died willingly for their master.
Crom,do I love the subtleties/subtext of this movie!
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PostSubject: Re: arms,motifs and historical influences in CTB   Sat 17 Nov - 19:59

Cool thread again!

I also have a thread on similar material, if you havent checked it out.


http://conancompletist.forumactif.com/conan-the-barbarian-f3/historical-art-and-symbolism-inspiration-in-conan-t653.htm

Obviously Cobb and others were viewing historical pieces, as well as Frazetta art.
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PostSubject: Re: arms,motifs and historical influences in CTB   Sat 17 Nov - 23:07

There ya go!
....snakes.Very chthonic.Yasmina is obviously patterned after the minoan snake goddess,she even has the stance when she comes out of the mountain of power with extending arms holding snakes.
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PostSubject: Re: arms,motifs and historical influences in CTB   Sat 17 Nov - 23:08

ehm,extended.
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