Future Earth barbarian setting Concept

Its non-Conan derectly related but this very early neat concept does indeed have the Oliver Stone CONAN concept as well PLANET OF THE APES(as well as Thundarr) look and feel.



http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/?m=200610

Excuse me for asking, but what's up with this post-apocalyptic image ? Was the CONAN that Oliver Stone wrote, set in a post-nuke world or something ?

Yes, Conan was to pass in front of an old movie poster on a street wall, some monster had some electronic parts in it (showing when Conan smashes its head).
It was only suggested, not an important part of the story.

The old sage in the Stone script also talked about, space shuttles. I think to be honest this concept which Stone was using was popular in those days least to fans of the genre. You have BLACKMARK and BLOODSTAR which uses barbarians in a future setting and both are loosely associated with CONAN and RE Howard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmark

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodstar

Stone may of been fan and incorporated some of this.

According to the old (and now defunct) "Gift of Fury" website, the movie poster was supposed to be a King Kong one (the 1976 version, most probably), but I never managed to find where exactly Akim got that trivia from... Paul Sammon, in Cinefantastique, only talks about "a buried one-sheet poster advertising a motion picture", without specifying any title... And, having read it now, we know that the one mentioned in the August 1, 1978 draft (assuming it is the only one Stone wrote?) is Blood and Sand, and not King Kong...

Chrysagon wrote:

some monster had some electronic parts in it (showing when Conan smashes its head)

This idea eventually made its way into the Red Sonja/Kalidor movie !

So were all the infamous mutants from the Stone screenplay version supposed to be post-Nuke irradiated humans/creatures ?

MightyMcT wrote:

According to the old (and now defunct) "Gift of Fury" website, the movie poster was supposed to be a King Kong one (the 1976 version, most probably), but I never managed to find where exactly Akim got that trivia from... Paul Sammon, in Cinefantastique, only talks about "a buried one-sheet poster advertising a motion picture", without specifying any title... And, having read it now, we know that the one mentioned in the August 1, 1978 draft (assuming it is the only one Stone wrote?) is Blood and Sand, and not King Kong...

Also am curious as why Stone was talking about "Genetic Engineering" on the DVD, maybe he had the idea of Thulsa Doom having a laboratory and creating strange beasts ? Least thats the impression I got, reminded me of that old movie we once talked about, "Atlantis the lost Continent"..

The Stone script I have is stated as being the 1st Draft(assume everybody else is the same?), so I wonder if Milius ever wrote his own 1st Draft? He may of just wrote the 2nd(1980)..but who knows?!

PS

In "Atlantis The Lost Continent", the Atlanteans use a slave wheel, rather like in CONAN. Also William Smith(Conan's pop) plays the Captain of the Guard.

My personal guess is that, in the late 70's, our man Stone was more into cocaine than DNA cloning !

Chrysagon wrote:

some monster had some electronic parts in it (showing when Conan smashes its head).

Are these the "Death Machines, armored mechanical things with red eyes" that Cromulus pointed out in his script review ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yor,_the_Hunter_from_the_Future

Wasn't the SHE movie with Sandahl Bergman also in the same vein (heroic fantasy + post-nuke + mutants) ?



At least, judging from the advertising campaign...

Is she wearing her CONAN pitfight outfit on this artwork ?!

On the Internet website which i am a member of, called Imagine Casting. I came up with a idea for a new cartoon series set in the 80000th cenury called ''Dandarr: Barbarian of the Future''. I could imagine a lot of people thinking Dandarr is a rip-off of Conan. Dandarr was very much my own idea. In Dandarr, Dandarr is a mighty space warrior who comes from a planet called Barbaria, which is the homeworld of Dandarr's race, The Barbarions. Dandarr and the Barbarions fought in a galactic war against a evil cyborg warlord known as Ogata Borg and his army of warrior robots. But Dandarr's race were all wiped out (Dandarr is the last Barbarion) and Barbaria was destroyed.
In Conan, Thulsa Doom and his evil warriors raided Conan's village and murdered Conan's people and his parents. Dandarr comes from different sources. Anyway, go to the Imagine Casting website and check it out!!

I think American Gladiator Michael O'Hearn a.k.a Titan would make a good Yor.

Wtf?

The old Warren comic magazines of the 70's (Creepy, Eerie, 1984) which were really great included A LOT of stories of barbarians in Post-Apocalyptic sets.

Maybe Oliver Stone was influenced by these mags, I can perfeclty imagine him reading those. (They had highly psychedelic stories and allways dark tone and humor. Watching NaturalBornKillers one realizes the guy had a high underground comics inspiration).


Those included Rich Coben's stuff like Den (not in the future but in another planet) and Bloodstar (wich DID happened in post-apocalyptic future, as Corben changed the concept. The original REH tale happened in prehistory). Stout said Milius loved Bloodstar, much more than Den, and that's why he wanted Corben for the Conan movie. Corben after Bloodstar had a lot of stories in identical post-apocalyptic sets:

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n4/n20295.jpg



HUNTER was the story of a barbarian dressed in some kind of silly sci-fi suit who fights against mutans (neanderthal-like) in the savage future. Covers by Ken Kelly.

SORRY ABOUT THE LINKS, GUYS, you should have to copy and paste

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Eerie [Warren] V1&img=0055.jpg

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Eerie [Warren] V1&img=0069.jpg

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Eerie [Warren] V1&img=0068.jpg

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Eerie [Warren] V1&img=0057.jpg

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Eerie [Warren] V1&img=0073.jpg




If I remember right this one also had a storyline of a medieval-like future with mutants and barbarians -also huge mutant army battles-.

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Eerie [Warren] V1&img=0102.jpg




Haxtur by a spanish artist -can't remember the name-. Another Conan in the future.

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Eerie [Warren] V1&img=0116.jpg




By the same spanish artist, Haggarth, same futuristic-barbarian set.

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Eerie [Warren] V1&img=0127.jpg

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Eerie [Warren] V1&img=0132.jpg

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Eerie [Warren] V1&img=0135.jpg




Not the only ones, there were tons of these stories but can't remember exactly:

Quote :

http://www.comiccovers.com/image.php?dir=_covers/Creepy [Warren] V1&img=0124.jpg

There was a 1958 Corman movie called "I WAS A TEENAGE CAVEMAN" set in a post-apocalyptic future with cavemen and dinosaurs and so. It was stone-age, not iro-age, though it could anyway also had been an influence for Oliver Stone's shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWAzrxS8KmE

I remeber I watched it as a kid, I don't remember much of it but the end were we discover the time is in the future, not in the past, in a way similar to the Stone's script, as the characters do some kind of archeologycal discovering.

(Minute 9:00)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ffixUWxBU

Also it's reminiscent of the end of "Planet of the Apes" though this movie is older, but surely "Planet of the Apes" end could also have influenced Stone.

Oh, there was another early 70's comic barbarian hero called ANDRAX. Set in Post-Apocaliptic future and this time yeah, a sword'sorcery future.

http://www.kaukacomics.de/kauka/content/images/3ec4e8719d70ab47d712ba2447a8c7ae.jpg


Some covers:

http://www.kaukapedia.com/images/Primo_1973-27.jpg

http://www.sf-radio.net/media/andrax.jpg

http://bp3.blogger.com/_0MWlV5Fbqrk/SANlNNwey2I/AAAAAAAAZWs/dhv2wzTgPNs/s1600-h/and.jpg


The future also included neanderthals, dinosaurs and different classes of mutants:

http://www.crosscult.de/sites/scifi-fantasy/andrax/band_02/pic/cover.jpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_0MWlV5Fbqrk/SAEMvSLWKvI/AAAAAAAAZP0/FXc71wcr_as/s1600-h/andrax+plancha.jpg

http://www.kaukapedia.com/images/Primo_1974-19.jpg


Very Frazettian:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_0MWlV5Fbqrk/SANjb9wey1I/AAAAAAAAZWk/DdTOLmM3F6U/s1600-h/ptero.jpg


Also there was an Andrax comic that featured a splash-page with a mamooth skeleton in a desert. Just exactly as the scene in The Destroyer movie.

The creator of ANDRAX was JORDI BERNET, spanish artist. By some unknown reason Andrax was not publisehd in Spain till late 80's, but was avaiable in Germany in 1976. In this next link you can download the whole series -it's in spanish sorry, though the art is worthy-.

http://www.taringa.net/posts/comics/1219427/Andrax---Jordi-Bernet-(Completo).html

Bernet was the co-creator of TORPEDO, a superb comic series about the gangster Luca Torelli, toughest and motherfuckerst of all the mutherfuckers in old Chicago I would highly recommend Torpedo over Andrax or any other thing.

http://comics.imakinarium.net/autores/b/bernet/3x3/1.jpg

Barbarians in a Post-Apocaliptic world:



The movie/pieceofshit was done in 1986.

The main female character is a barbarian woman called VALARIA played by Angelika Jager.

http://www.monstershack.net/reviews/full/robohol.php

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And another one; a spanish rip-off od Milius' CTB set in a post apocalyptic future where men fighst vs women.

It was filmed in 1983, though it wasn't released till 1986.



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And ANOTHER one (1985):





http://www.post-apocalypse.co.uk/clash.html